The Cainites, or Cainians were a Gnostic and Antinomian sect who were known to venerate . for doubting the truth of Irenaeus’ account, though accusations of immorality urged against heretics should always be received with caution. This is a beautiful book, I cannot stress that enough. Cainite Heresy is one of the best books that White Wolf have ever published. This book is paced full of. Thankfully, Cainite Heresy is more the latter than the former. This book is a good, useful exploration of how vampire imagery can infiltrate (and sometimes.
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The Sabbat also considers the Cainite Heresy to be heretical because it interprets the marking of Caine as a gift with a purpose, not as a curse to punish him for his hubris.
Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. ReviewsWorld of Darkness. Which makes many loosely Christian vampires either cainlte it as Heresy or decide to follow it, its kinda depends on the individual.
Imperial Rome decided that the best hresy to deal with this chaos was to co-opt it, rather than continue trying to crush it. Morrus – Monday, 14th August, Elsewhere he seems to have Cainaei Dial.
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This would probably piss off the hdresy Christian vampires. We have no ground to suppose that the Cainites held such a view, but they seem to have professed the belief that hefesy fullness of experience was essential to salvation. He tells us that the Cainites regarded Cain as derived from the higher principle.
Not so much “news” as a “retrospective”. I cannot speak authoritatively to the OP’s intent, but I believe that is the case. Originally posted by Demon Cat View Post. These movements are fairly popular with the urban poor and destitute, forming rather strong followings at times.
They identified the Creator with the God of the Jews. For one thing, the teachings of the Cainite Heresy were heretical in the extreme by the standards of the Catholic and Orthodox churches and would still be, today.
In an alternate reality where no single religion gained monopoly, with many cainie and conflicting religions and cults coexising, it would be much easier for Cainites to rule openly, or at least not being hunted by mortals. Remember also that for a lot of individuals being a Cainite Bishop or Priest in the heresy offers a lot of power within pro-Heresy areas but concequently makes you enemies like Anatole.
We have no substantial justification for doubting the truth herezy Irenaeus’ account, though accusations of immorality urged against heretics should always be received with caution. He states that they taught, as did Carpocratesthat salvation could be attained only by passing through all experience.
They were mentioned by Tertullian and Irenaeus as existing in the eastern Roman Empire during the 2nd century. Actually the CH issue got me wondering what kind of forces were behind the rise of Christianity.
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From the human-christian perspective CH is certainly a most blasphemous heresy, but why would most vampires view it as such? But they escaped injury from him, for Sophia used to carry away from them to herself that which belonged to her. There is no doubt that they applauded the action of Judas in the betrayal, but our authorities differ as to the motive which prompted him. The Church wasn’t the enemy of Cainites at first. In an academic manner there’s a whole argument as to whether these individuals are actual forebears and precursors to what is seen as the inevitable reformation, but I won’t go into that in detail here because Dungeon of the Mad Mage Level On first instinct I was going to make a Stranger Things reference and link game and show in a rather obvious way.
They claimed fellowship with EsauKorahthe men of Sodomand all such people, and regarded themselves as on that account persecuted by the Creator. The confluance of religion, Road, Clan, regional culture, and personal interpretation can prompt serious soul-searching and many unresolved or conflicting ethical ideas. Whenever any sin or vile action was performed by them, they asserted that an angel was present whom they invoked, claiming that they were fulfilling his operation.